Funkstar has brought up an interesting question regarding Medusa and Lilith.
Funkstar wrote in the comments
“A lot of the mythology for astrology comes from the ancient Greeks but as far as I know they did not mention Lilith. I was thinking that Hekate may be similar, or even Medusa. Do you think it is correct to associate Lilith with the fixed star Algol”?
That is a very good question Funkstar – one which helps us to explore the Lilith archetype further. There does seem to be similar mythological stories and archetypes across the different cultures.
According to Janus Astrology information Algol ….
“is a name derived from Arabic “Al Ghoul” meaning “demon”, “evil spirit” or “devil”. The word “alcohol” can also be traced to Al Ghoul. Nature of Mars and Saturn.”
A very good article by Nick Kollerstrom on Medusa can be found here.
I can understand how there may have been a “cross over” in the archetypes of both Lilith and Algol. They are both very similar kinds of energy – but they are not the same in my view. Perhaps one of the archetypes can be a function of the other and in this way the archetype becomes complex and sound similar?
Don’t Look at Medusa
Different cultures and races have their own sets of archetypal stories. It was interesting that Jung explored how two completely remote communities or cultures seemed to come up with the same mythological stories.
Recently I have put on my Picassa page an article by Psychologist Tony White on “The Demon Sub Personality” The very good article seems to reflect the same kinds of Black Moon Lilith phenomenon. (please press the above link then “slideshow” and full screen for best viewing). Tony White describes case studies and explores the “Demon”. He quotes Berne below who refers to Freud about the “Demon” introject;
I am not sure whether the original writer Eric Berne (he is Jewish) has “accidentally” modernised aspects of the Lilith and Medusa stories? Berne’s social psychiatry work involves archetypal stories about ones Life Script. Tony White’s excellent phenomenological approach to the “Demon Sub Personality” does reflect Black Moon Lilith as I have understood her. His clinical observations and client testimonies about the Demon are worth reading.
Eric Berne a psychiatrist describes the psychological game of Rapo where a woman uses her charms to get closer to a male admirer. In the end she says to the man that she is married and then laughs. She “gets off” on being flirty and then destructive. The man kind of turns to stone like in the Medusa story. The woman seems to get control over the “male energy” which is also a Lilith – like behaviour.
In the Medusa story the outcome relates to how Perseus overcomes such a “demon”. I believe that Medusa’s head symbolizes all that there is to fear and the courage one needs to win through fear. One must meet with a formidable force by risking any challenge with Medusa .
Perhaps in the story of Medusa it ended well for Perseus however there were many before him who turned to stone. The Lilith archetype does not seem to have such an ending and “her” deepest pain, jealousy, passion and sense for revenge continues.
Flirting requires two to play – maybe the bar tender is the woman’s husband?
The archetype in the fixed star of Algol (Medusa) perhaps describes a particular “game” or psychological process that “Lilith” is capable of. That is – the Medusa archetype describes one potential of Lilith’s behaviour. Sometimes I have to remind myself how the Lilith archetype and Black Moon Lilith are working on different levels in the psyche.
So maybe there is a link between Lilith and Medusa Funkstar? - Good question and point to make. In my mind Black Moon Lilith and Medusa are complimentary and that is why BML – the empty focus Moon can be so complex.
All roads lead to Rome Funkstar especially where understanding Black Moon Lilith is concerned.